About Jailbreak
1/21/2008 07:36:00 AM - 35 comments
The reason we are delaying the release of the jailbreak is that we don't want (you know who) to know how we did it.We can't and we won't release a full decrypted image of 113 because that would constitute a copyright infringement and we DO NOT support piracy.
So, concentrate on the 1.1.3 ramdisks. Get them by hardware, bruteforcing or whatever method you come up with.
We'd like to keep the vulnerability open so that whatever the current version is at the time the SDK is released will be breakable.
I hope you understand.
So, concentrate on the 1.1.3 ramdisks. Get them by hardware, bruteforcing or whatever method you come up with.
We'd like to keep the vulnerability open so that whatever the current version is at the time the SDK is released will be breakable.
I hope you understand.




will this delay the 1.1.2otb software unlock ?
I'm happy to hear that...
I still use my iphone with xxsim till the SDK is out...
well...
we dont know if apple isnt gonna fix that even without you publishing it, but i respect your decision.
now one question. if you jailbreak next version (the one wich inludes SDK) will help you to use SDK to develop apps for installer?, without "selling" thru itunes. or whats the benefit?
i think next version will be jailbreakeable even if you publish right now the jailbreak method for 1.1.3, there will be a way for sure on next version!.
ok mate. But why none or you speak about the unlock? Good news or bad news??
I think most people get that. But why don't you talk about 1.1.2 otb software unlock? People in this blog is only asking you to talk about it, not to release it tomorrow.
You said in geohot's blog it will be done and after that, not one single word about it...
I understand why you don't want to explain the exploit but i don't really understand why you say you can jailbreak and don't show the method.
If you want he must not be named not to find the exploit you use i think it had been more cleaver not to say jailbreak has been done.
I agreee with bu when he/she says that we're looking for news on the OTB 1.1.2 software unlock. We don't want it right away, we just want to know if it's possible or not, if we should save for a ***sim or wait for the hacker community.
Zibri.... Please.... you think it's possible to SW unlock but don't you have news about??? a lot of us ask for this
The same question Zibri, could you explain to us if there is any relationship between jailbreak 1.1.3 and 1.1.2 otb SW unlock?
Thanks a million
Zibri...Why not just post the key to decrypt the 1.1.3 firmware image so that others can do it? It will help a lot of people and Apple already knows that you have it is a win-win and you have nothing to lose by helping people and posting it.
Zibri... I am also as curious as the other ppl with there comments on a 1.1.2OTB software unlock. U said it should happen.... well can u give us a little more info so we know that we don't have to waste our money on a ***SIM? u don't have to say when it will be released but just shead some hope to us with a few more details, then im sure u wont have so many question about it...
Thanks! and I appreciate all the hard work u and others do to the iPhone!
the "We do not support PIRACY" part was great !!
If you are going to wait until February to release 1.1.3 why not help us with 1.1.2? ?
We need to buy a ***SIM?
Zibri... u knw wat?? i've been praying to god that u guys must get more n more into ur brains... hehe.. We ae waiting for ur software unlock... Can u pls tell us if its possible to unlock 1.1.2 OTB using software?? jus give us hope ... pls...
Hi Zibri,
I'd appreciate it very much if you tell us: for the "possible software unlock for 1.1.2 ootb" you mentioned, will it include a software-only bootloader downgrader?
Just a tought...
why to retain a software until SDK? i understand you can do whatever you want with the software that came out from your brains... but it came to my mind that the SDK itself should open other ways to crack the software..
on the other hand.. they may fix the vulnerability for the next version so no benefit for nobody
Personaly Im just courious if the new google maps works on my Country ( Costa Rica ) which i think that is unlikely to happen... other features on 1.1.3 are nothing.. SB author can do that "moving icons" thing... or some other with just some time to do that... so i dont understand why Jobs claims that it would be enough to bring the people with altered phones back to them....
I obviously dislike those Appl's kind of restrictive policies...but now the hackers are being restrictive too... c'mon.... i hope you enjoy your cracked 1.1.3 and also enjoy all the people cryes for a crack release i hope those rise your pride.
Whenever you post the sw is ok ... i'll use it probably... and 'll be thankful at that moment... but now i just think u're just doing the same, may be some one with some spare time will get desperate and will release his own crack... who knows....
btw i've a question... having the jailbreak means that someone is working on anysim? or it would be "impossible" to unlock it?
other thing is... if you release a method program or something to decrypt the dmg it will not be piracy since you are not publishing other's software but yours.... and it's responsability of the one who uses it... and don't publish the ipsw file... that anyway can be obtained as easy as u did the first time....
well.. enough... grazie mile..
Can't you find two ways for Jailbreaking and publish only one of them ?
It can be a good deal between helping the users and keeping a way for the next firmware jailbreaking.
Not releasing it now, to me, seems a little strange. Apple will do what Apple does. They don't plan their updates around jailbreaking. So something doesn't make sense here.
Moreover, more and more jailbreakers, who don't unlock, are just going to say screw it and give up on jailbreaking altogether, with the impending release of the SDK.
And if what you are holding up is anything like the tiff exploit it's downright reckless to not release it.
1.1.2 OTB PLEASE. . ..
YES o NO ?
I need to buy ***SIM ?
Please respond. . . .
i dont understand this pple. Dev Team and other work hard for all of us and free.
1.1.3 JB ISNT 1.1.2 OTB unlock. This post and other are only referent to 1.1.3 JB status. please, stop to said the same.
In this moment, 1.1.3 JB only add some fix and some minor features in comparison with 1.1.2 JB. Its very normal that this team prefer to wait to a possible 1.1.4 with SDK.
yes, its very possible that apple can fix this hole with 1.1.4, but its only possible. If 1.1.3 JB are release, then apple SURE fix this hole. That its better? 1.1.3 JB (and only add maps localization) or wait to 1.1.4 (and add all SDK apps)
Will we have to downgrade to 1.1.1 to
Jailbreak?
its possible public key for extract dmg files?
Administratuer asked:
Can't you find two ways for Jailbreaking and publish only one of them ?
Well.. that's exactly what we are trying to do.
About 1.1.2 OOTB software unlock.. i will just say that it *is* possible but it has not yet been done.
Everyone please keep in mind that this is Zibri's personal blog, and so the above statement is Zibri's personal opinion. It isn't intended nor should it be construed as a statement from the dev team. :)
zibri, just one question, if you can help me. I'm trying to decide between HW unlock and waiting for the SW unlock. The one thing that could make me prefer the former is the possibility of downgrading the bootloader. I'm confident that you and the devs will be able to develop the SW unlock, but, do you think it is possible to downgrade the bootloader by software?
HEY ZIBRI.............so is the 1.1.2 software unlock been worked on or is it nearly finished or has it not started yet?
THANKS a billion times
U ROCK ZIBRI!!
SO HAS THE 1.1.2 SOFTWARE UNLOCKED BEEN WORKED ON OR NOT YET?
BUT WE KNOW ITS POSSIBLE...:)
Zibri, you are a fucking idiot. But you already knew that didnt you?
pondo, fuck off.
Zibri...could find a way to just ACTIVATE it while we wait for the official SDK release (and then for the new jailbreak)?
Thank you anyway for what you're doing and you did.
So if I upgrade to 1.1.3 now, will that impact my ability to jailbreak later?
I think this means there's no use saving the jailbreak, because if installer.app does work on 1.1.3 and 1.1.3 is the SDK OS then we're fine. The OS will recognise an SDK app and check its signature and if it's good it'll run. This cannot be changed without an update to the OS. It's either already there or not. Alternatively, and if I were Apple this is how I'd do it -- they release an update that will implement the complete OS and SDK support. This OS will ship with the same native apps (maybe a new app store), however this time these native apps are also signed by apple. If an app isn't signed it doesn't run.
Whether I'm right or not about all apps requiring signatures to run in the future (worst case scenario) there is little doubt SDK apps will have this signature and that distribution is likely directly from apple. And of course at any time in the future apple could add signatures to native apps as well that would effectively lock out any non-approved app.
In summary I think the SDK will roll out with an update with everything signed, or possibly 1.1.3 (or an update) will accept SDK apps and recognise them as such and only require them to have a signature, however why would Apple limit itself when it could kill off all un-official apps is beyond me.
In the end, we don't really know how the SDK will be implemented and how the apps are to be distributed. However we do have some evidence of a revised OS in 1.1.3 and I don't think all the bits are currently included. We have good evidence from Jobs himself that SDK apps will be signed, so why stop at SDK apps? Finally going by how apple currently distributes add-ons, and its insistence on stability, security, and signing apps, it's likely these will all go through apple.com or iTunes or a new App on the phone using iTunes billing information to download them. Due to all of this, I don't think that 1.1.3 is the final SDK OS, and some of its changes are being seen already.
Zibri,
Would you guys be willing to package up Google Maps from 1.1.3 so everyone on 1.1.1/2 can take advantage of its new features? Or does it require 1.1.3?